Hello all,This may be a little controversial. As of today, when you buy an Alteryx Server, the basic package covers up to 4 cores :https://community.alteryx.com/t5/Alteryx-Server-Knowledge-Base/How-Alteryx-defines-cores-for-licensing-our-products/ta-p/158030I have always known that. But these last years, the technology, the world has evolved. Especially the number of cores in a server. As an example, AMD Epyc CPU for server begin at 8 cores :https://www.amd.com/en/processors/epyc-7002-series
So the idea is to update the number of cores in initial package for 8 or even 16 cores. It would :-make Alteryx more competitive-cost only very few money-end some user frustrationMoreover, Alteryx Server Additional Capacity license should be 4 cores.Best regards,Simon
Thank you for your feedback!
Our product team appreciates the feedback on how users might like to see both our licensing and product as whole evolve. Updates like this take a lot of careful consideration for several teams, and we appreciate the user feedback on what you would like to see in the future.
Hello,A little update : Inel new generation also begins at 8 cores. So it really does not make sense to begin Alteryx Server at 4 coreshttps://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/series/204098/3rd-generation-intel-xeon-scalable-processors.html
Best regards,Simon
Hello @CristonS Thanks for the update, it's really great for the product price competitiveness.Best regards,Simon
"I remember when you could only buy cars with 8 cylinders!"
As others have said in this thread, it's time to evolve. Companies are not buying two or four core servers to save money.
AMD will launch an EPYC TURIN with 256 cores.. 256 cores... in other terms, 64 times the 4 cores in the initial package.
New Intel Xeon scalable begin at 6 cores. https://www.intel.fr/content/www/fr/fr/products/details/processors/xeon/scalable.html
Please, can we have some news on this topic ? It's really hard to sell a 4-cores only licensing package while the server is itself a 6 or 8 cores...
Hey @KylieF since @CristonS has retired, are there any updates on Alteryx updating the CORE license #s.
The model hasn't changed in over 10 years, yet the prices are continuing to go up
601 days since this idea was submitted. 511 days since the status changed to "under review". Nothing has changed since. Does anyone at Alteryx know this idea exists?
@TheCoffeeDude Hello. To be frank, Some of my ideas are under review or accepted for three or four years.
any updates on this?
i'm not holding my breath on getting an answer anytime soon. I hear that the minimum cores will be doubled in a future version. If you put your conspiracy hat on, double the number of minimum cores, keep the same price per core, = extra $ for Alteryx. ">😐
@TheCoffeeDudeHello. double the minimum number of cores at the same total price would be ok, but at the same price by core, that would mean double the entry price , an entry price that's already pretty high, whih would lead to less sales. In other term, a commercial suicide.Best regards,Simon
When it's just for automation, wouldn't it be cheaper to use an Alteryx Designer with a huge number of cores and RPA to automate?Just asking for a friend.
In a nutshell, Server gives you the ability to do version control on workflows, the ability for multiple users to schedule workflows, and share connections. If you have the Alteryx Desktop Scheduler (optional?), lots of cores on your desktop, not a lot of users, and use your preferred version control - then yes, Desktop is cheaper.
@TheCoffeeDude with RPA, you don't even need the Alteryx Desktop Scheduler...
Great idea @simonaubert_bd .
In addition to all of your great points, with the release of the AMP engine as the default server engine, Alteryx says the minimum amount of cores needed for the AMP engine to be enabled is 8.
Of course you could use the E2 engine with a 4 core environment but, it only makes sense for the basic license to adhere to the new default.
https://help.alteryx.com/20223/server/amp-engine-best-practices
Under system requirements.
Best regards,
Fernando Vizcaino
@fmvizcainoOuch, I didn't even notice the contradiction between licensing and minimum requirements. Well..Hello @NicoleJ Could we have someone from Alteryx reacting to this onev, please ? We may have some issues with customers migrating to Alteryx 2022.3Best regards,Simon
@ericbohmert, @mheinze - this is a huge issue. The version of Alteryx Server changes the minimum core requirement. This new requirement will effectively halves the number of workers that my company will have to process things (four 4-core workers will become two eight-core workers), making a bad situation worse. Significantly worse.
It's time for Alteryx to face a new reality with core licensing.
Hello all,AMD Epyc 9004 now begins at... 16 coreshttps://www.amd.com/en/processors/epyc-9004-series
Meanwhile, Alteryx AMP engine requires 8 cores..It's more than time to make this idea real and make the initial package 16 cores instead of 4 !!This idea has been under review for years now while the competitors take some advance.@AlteryxCommunityTeam @NicoleJ Can we expect an update at that point? It has some impact on sales (Server looks too expensive) and on actual deployment (my customer refuse to adopt the AMP engine).Best regards,Simon
Bump. Any updates on this one @DanM + team?
Hello @MarcSchonwandt Can I ask you to vote for if you're interested? I made all my coworkers to because it does insanely matter.Best regards,Simon
This is so true and needs to be actioned asap. with new advancement in technology. No Point in having 4 cores for server and 2 cores for worked node when AMP Engine cannot work ..
@simonaubert_bd Voted! Any news on this Alteryx? Tagging a few Alteryx people here as we don't quite know if this has been seen or not: @DanM, HenrietteH, LisaL, @BrandonB, @SophiaF, @StephV, @FláviaB )
Hello @MarcSchonwandt Thanks. However, I think something went bad because your vote is not taken. It must be the top post and after the vote (the thumb up icon) should appear full blue instead of blue and white.Best regards,Simon
@simonaubert_bd Hmm thats wierd, thanks for the heads up I just tried again
Hello @Atabarezz Thanks !
Just interested to know but does everyone here use physical servers for Alteryx?
Presumably if you have VM you can choose how many cores to expose?
Although that doesn't address the issue with the AMP requirement not being in line with the base license offering.
Hello @Paul_Holden Not sure to get your point .. if you have the basic 4-cores licence, even if your VM is 16 or 64 cores, only 4 will be used.Best regards,Simon
@simonaubert_bd I was reading one of the issues raised by the thread as - "it's not possible any more to provision a server with just a the basic 4 core pack"
Whilst I fully understand that a 4 core server may not have the required capability I was just wanting to clarify if people really weren't able to do it at all?
I.e. can you provision a VM with only 4 cores and that will run on the basic offering without additional 2 core packs
I wanted to know if I was missing something about the validity of running a 4 core VM on the basic offering - since the hypervisor underneath will definitely have more than 4 cores.
Hope that makes some sense?
EDIT:
The other side of this being that if I only have 16 core servers (hypervisors) available I don't want to be forced to buy 16 cores worth of packs if my Alteryx workload will run quite happily on 8 cores.
(I think our hypervisors are actually 256 cores!)
